Keith Hernandez says that Willie Randolph lost the Latin players in his clubhouse last year:
I don't know. I am not in that clubhouse. You know there's a code of silence in the clubhouse, and things are kept in house. But I do know that a lot of the Latin players — and the key Latin players — did not like Willie. And that's why they probably felt the move had to be made. Because they weren't performing. And all of a sudden Jerry Manuel comes in and it's like someone turned a light switch on. And all of a sudden Delgado is out of his slump and Reyes is playing like heck. So you know, it's one of those things.
I take this to mean that the players were less enthusiastic to play for Randolph and that general lack of enthusiasm translated into poor play as opposed to anyone intentionally dogging it. Either way, clubhouse dynamics are something those of us on the outside really don't and can't easily understand, so it's interesting to hear Hernandez's opinion on this. I'll only add that Randolph's apparent loss of the Latin vote, as it were, had additional consequences among the non-Latins on the team. You'll recall Billy Wagner going off last year about how Delgado and some other players weren't hanging around after games to meet the press? If Hernandez is right, they were probably doing that to hang Randolph out to dry, and in turn that hung guys like Wagner out to dry. That whole dynamic is on the manager in my view.
The funny thing is, there is evidence now that Jerry Manuel is losing his players too, with Johan Santana ignoring his signs Tuesday night and David Wright recently seen imploring Manuel to get out on the field and argue a call that went against the Mets (Manuel didn't). So maybe it's just a New York thing.
In other news there would be worse things for Bobby Valentine to be doing than updating his resume right now.



I GUESS only Craig has authority to ASSUME what is going on in the CLUBHOUSE.......
Even though he never played Major League Baseball............ Like Hernandez did
WOW.........
Wait. Are you criticizing Craig, Keith Hernandez, or both? Because Craig is just speculating, while Keith Hernandez is a known blowhard. I don't get this post.
That said, it seems pretty obvious that the Mets have some sort of diseased clubhouse dynamic. I don't know what causes that. But I do know that I don't think much of Jerry Manuel as a manager, while I didn't think Willie Randolph was that bad at all. But then again, I'm no player, and I'm not even a Mets fan.
I thought Hot Rod was mocking the whole "I played in the bigs, you didn't, so I know everything and you know nothing" mentality that justifies the employment of John Kruk, Steve Phillips (GM, not player, but similar reasoning), etc.
He was serious??? Oh, brother!
Hot Rod -- setting aside the fact that you show up as a useless troll in just about every thread, I'll ask you to point out what I'm assuming here. Hernandez is saying what he thinks happnend. I'm speculating based on Hernandez's assumption, as any one is free to do. The same goes for the Manuel stuff. It was reported that Santana ignored the bunt sign that Manuel put on the other night. Video (and other reporting clearly shows that Wright was arguing with Manuel about going out to argue the call when Tatis was called out. This is not an instance in which I'm assuming anything.
If you disagree with my speculation, say why. If you're just going to get your panties in a bunch every time someone writes something negative about the Mets, take it someplace else.
Please explain how one "loses"Latino athletes.Is there a special formula known only to Latinos,and does this magic formula apply to other vocations? This is the most laughable bit of pap I have heard in years.Most people would say the consistent application of affection,respect and discipline works with all ethnic groups.So,unless you believe all ethnic groups have their own "special needs"that hinder their performance,stuff this nonsense!
I can't speak from first hand experience, comnsnse, I'm only passing along what reporters, announcers, and former players have said, and that's this: Latin players frequently form a very tight clique inside baseball clubhouses, and like any clique, if one of them has an issue with someone (it was reported last year that Delgado and Randolph clashed a lot) the others in the group will be more inclined to take sides.
Maybe it's not true, but many people within the game believe it to be true, and it's certainly plausible.
cmnsnse, you mean to tell me all the hype about Omar Minaya working overtime to build a predominantly latino club for the past few years is all pap? He engineered this club for any number of specific reasons, not the least a feeling of solidarity and commraderie in the club house. That is a fact, not fiction. So if that thinking holds water, so does the hypothesis Craig laid out above.
Solidarity baby...it worked in Poland...I checked!
The notion that ethnic minorities tend to form supportive 'cliques' is absolutely validated in many walks of life ... why would an MLB clubhouse be any different? I think this is *particularly* true when many Latin players struggle with English.
hey , it's the mets... what else can you expect...?? professionalism..? ha.